Bill is Back on the Web

image Bill and his ministry have relaunched his personal website, BillGothard.com.  It features many of the over 20 books he has written over the past four years.  He continues traveling from time to time to speak.  At 82 he shows no signs of slowing down.

A new focus in a number of his books is the “gut brain”, the principle that we do more thinking and planning with our “gut” than we do with the grey matter between our ears. Scripture uses the term “reins” in the King James Version to refer to this part of our “Inner Man”, the Hebrew word for “kidneys”.  The importance of these “reins” is given in Psalm 16 where it becomes the means of God’s direction and instruction to us:

Psalms 16:7

“I will bless the Lord, who hath given me counsel:
my reins also instruct me in the night seasons.”

Jesus also refers to the “reins” or kidneys – in this case the Greek word – as distinct from our “heart”:

Revelation 2:23

“I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.”

Check it out!

13 Comments

  1. David S. Knecht Sr. David S. Knecht Sr.
    May 18, 2017    

    Yes, I visited this site the other day and noticed the fresh rebuttal to the MCO guys. I remember the exasperated remark of a comrade when he butted heads with a bureaucrat. “My job is to make things happen; he only stops things from happening, which is far easier!” While Gothard has devoted himself to making things happen, MCO seems limited to stopping things from happening.

    David K

    • Moderator Moderator
      May 21, 2017    

      I have met Don Veinot, albeit briefly, and I believe he is fundamentally a sincere, godly man. He hits a lot of groups . . . very focused on the orthodox, agree with most of his opinions. I believe he has fallen into the trap of judging on the surface, lumping . . . prejudices. Plus being heavily influenced by naysayers that he interviewed almost 40 years ago. I personally fact-checked his book and was troubled by the obvious bias when it came to presenting – perhaps skewing – the facts. Accepting unproven things, someone’s word, as “fact”, things later proven false, as we have documented. The Savior is one who will not “snuff the smoking flax, break the bruised reed”, meaning . . . a complete lack of prejudice, jumping to a conclusion. Something we all seem to have a hard time doing.

  2. rob war rob war
    May 18, 2017    

    Alfred,
    His new books look to be a rehashing of his teaching. His ideas that we really are controlled by our “kidneys” based on KJV English is delving into voodoo science and taking scripture out of context. I would suggest that Bill stop trying to practice medicine without a license. His claims on his web site of helping Vets avoid suicide is not backed up with any facts. To claim that he has the answer to complex problems such as Chicago’s high crime rates is again misleading and false. And finally, the repeated assertion that Bill is “still busy”, still on the go, still looks like using busy busy busy as an avoidance. If Bill really has committed to meditation and reading the Bible, I do not see that in anything you are describing about Bill’s current activity levels of always on the go. I’m not sure why the idea of “being busy” or always on the go is so appealing to you. That’s more of a sign of being manic. Our whole culture is addicted to activity and busy and always on the go. Bill needs to stop being Martha and start being Mary and maybe sit down at the feet of Jesus for a while which is what is most important than the other.

    • Moderator Moderator
      May 21, 2017    

      His new books look to be a rehashing of his teaching.

      Worth a read :-) For my part, I have heard about everything Bill has put forward in 45 years . . . and, no, this is no rehash.

      His ideas that we really are controlled by our “kidneys” based on KJV English is delving into voodoo science and taking scripture out of context.

      Those are, of course, easy charges to make. First of all, the “reins” may be KJV, the “kidneys” is Hebrew . . . AND Greek. In the instances cited, the Lord clearly differentiates “heart” from “kidneys”, the latter in the Hebrew “dual”, clearly refering to “a pair”. Here is another one:

      Jeremiah 17:10 “I the Lord search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.”

      He “searches” the heart, yet “tries”, pulls on the “reins”. WHAT is this thing that is often listed with the heart, yet not the same? I have yet to find another theologian to offer an explanation.

      As to phoney science, I would encourage you to check that out.

      https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/gut-second-brain/

      “Given the two brains’ commonalities, other depression treatments that target the mind can unintentionally impact the gut. The enteric nervous system uses more than 30 neurotransmitters, just like the brain, and in fact 95 percent of the body’s serotonin is found in the bowels. Because antidepressant medications called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) increase serotonin levels, it’s little wonder that meds meant to cause chemical changes in the mind often provoke GI issues as a side effect. Irritable bowel syndrome—which afflicts more than two million Americans—also arises in part from too much serotonin in our entrails, and could perhaps be regarded as a “mental illness” of the second brain.”

      http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/Brain-heart-and-gut-minds/articleshow/8647137.cms

      “95 per cent of the body’s serotonin is found in the gut.”

      “The gut or the digestive system has close to 500 million nerve cells and 100 million neurons and is almost the size of a cat’s brain.”

      “Recent research reveals that there is tremendous amount of information flow from the gut to the brain via the vagus nerve and this flow is mostly one-sided.”

      In response to other comments: Bill has had tremendous results turning around troubled youth in “impossible” situations over many years. His stuff . . . works. Mostly because Jesus stuff . . . . works. Which is why he became an international leader with millions of alumni.

      And . . . he is constantly meditating on God’s Word. Hardly an interaction with him goes by without him sharing something the Lord gave him in the night seasons as he meditated. His activity is far from busy work . . . he really gets a lot done :-) You can’t publish 22 books in 3 years by just looking busy. I don’t see him that often, but have had the privilege of observing some of his activities, which certainly continue to included interactions with “movers and shakers”, including national leaders.

      • rob war rob war
        May 21, 2017    

        Are these books as in the length of “War and Peace” or are these “booklets” in the style of Kenneth Hagin Sr.? If Bill has helped “millions” of troubled youth as he claims and you are vouching for, then where are these “millions” he has helped and why aren’t these “millions” coming to his defense? However there are many blogs (not just RG) that talk about the problems of his teaching, many of them. Maybe it impresses you that he has “published” 22 booklets in three years, however, I’m not really impressed and see it as more rehashing or remixing of previous teaching and someone that really now has time on his hand to write booklets. He sounds like he hasn’t changed, just has more time on his hands to do these activities that you are impressed with. Bill’s hey day was in the 1970s. The 1980s scandal did cause the gradual backing away from him and his teachings. The ATI program was pretty isolated within Fundamentalism. I’m not sure what movers and shakers he is still involved with if any but if so, there should be names (real names) than innuendos and if there are big name (whatever that means), then they shouldn’t be afraid to say that they still support Bill. Sorry but none of that means anything to me and what would be more meaningful would be for him to spend time in solitude and real prayer.

        • Moderator Moderator
          May 21, 2017    

          The Savior’s record of people “coming to His defense” when under attack was dismal indeed. For those miraculously healed, it was 1/10th, right? In his darkest hour, Paul lamented that everybody except a handful he could name on one hand had “forsaken” him. Nothing unusual here. But I can personally attest to the constant steam of folks coming to “bear witness” to how the Lord has blessed them through Bill.

          Book lengths are not War and Peace, but enough chapters to carry a punch. They are not “booklets”. Movers and shakers are between him and them, but they sport current and former government officials, some from foreign nations, business leaders of companies you would recognize, church leaders. They seek him out. No, the environment is still not conducive to grand public associations, but the interest, respect and love are genuine.

      • rob war rob war
        May 23, 2017    

        Alfred,
        I appreciate the links but this is very new and still experimental. However, Bill with no science or medicine background should not be taking new and experimental research, combining that with a couple of Bibles verses out of context and them coming to the conclusions that if one just memorizes the Bible till the cows come home, they will change their “gut brains” which according to Bill will eliminate fear, worry etc. etc. Sorry but one can’t take verses out of Psalms which are more allegorical and poetic and turn them into cutting edge science. Bill has been preaching memorization and meditation from the start. This isn’t new material for him. One should “contemplate” and pray to draw closer to God, not to get goodies from God. But true contemplation and prayer take time and even solitude. There is a big difference between Bill’s ideas on this and the books I read from true contemplative masters and Lectio Devina which is one of the oldest ways and methods to read and contemplate scripture. Someone that spits out 22 books in 3 years is not a great sign me someone the is truly spending time alone with God. Quantity is not quality. Now I’m sure that you are going to say that all these books are high quality but anything from Bill is that to you.

        • Moderator Moderator
          May 25, 2017    

          a couple of Bibles verses out of context

          Now would be the time to clarify the out of context part :-). I am pretty sure they are in context . . .

    • David S. Knecht Sr. David S. Knecht Sr.
      May 22, 2017    

      Dear sister Rob,

      Some thoughts: Suppose Bill Gothard is processing medicine without a license (whatever that means). I infer from your comment that you consider it a bad thing. Which raises a question: Why should caesar have a monopoly on who is permitted to help his subjects be well and strong in the flesh? Like me, I bet you do much to help your loved ones be strong and well, without even bothering to secure a permission slip from caesar! If you and I do it, why shouldn’t Bill Gothard?

      As for Gothard’s levels of exertion: You and I may be in spry, productive middle age, but don’t you aspire to more than a rocking chair in your eighties? If not, give me a call thirty years from now and we can rock on the front porch together reminiscing about the bad old days of Bill Gothard.

      Your rock star brother,
      David K

  3. Beth Beth
    May 21, 2017    

    I pray Bill’s eyes are opened and that he can catch a glimpse of the wonder of God – red, hard covered books aside, 10,000 non-optional steps to success aside, and images of grand pursuits aside – JUST JESUS and Him crucified.

    My family has personally experienced too much heartache, frustration and double standards at the hands of the Institute both with Bill at the head and now with those who follow in his footsteps. My entire life has been flooded with Bill’s philosophies and it wasn’t until we were deeply wounded by Bill and his kingdom nearly two years that our family stopped and reevaluated so much. And we are moving forward and not back.

    I am saddened that the mighty steam engine just keeps chugging along.

    I pray God’s best for Bill and those still supporting him and his kingdom, but pray that that best includes the Spirit of Truth.

    • Moderator Moderator
      May 21, 2017    

      We are – I am – deeply sorry for what you have gone through, Beth. The strange thing is, the Bill I know would not disagree with you on most of your concerns. Regardless, were you to reach a point where you would like to speak to him face to face – or as close as feasible to that – and express your grief and concerns, that would be arranged. He has no great staff surrounding him these days.

  4. rob war rob war
    May 23, 2017    

    Alfred,
    I looked over at the new web site and most of these books are under 100 pages. I think there is one at 211 and one includes a CD. A couple are fancy journal types and most of them are clearly rehashing his previous teaching. He obviously is self publishing them and not selling anywhere else. In other words, I don’t see them on Amazon and e-book format. Sorry but trying to boost his ballon isn’t working. Anyone with 40+ years of teaching can easily turn around and spit out 22 books (very short books) in 3 years. I don’t see this working for him is this is what he is trying to do and while you care for him, you don’t need to blow his trumpet.

    • Moderator Moderator
      May 25, 2017    

      IF you think that is a piece of cake, I suggest you try it :-) But I have read them – most of them – and I, again, heartily disagree with your assessments. Well assembled, beautifully adorned, clearly presented.

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